Why are fable stories mostly dominated by male protagonists? What does that say about cultures and the way that we represent male and female gender roles? How can we as a society begin to change that and edge more towards equality?
This says that men are stronger. If women were stronger then they would be books more! Plus in this book its a boy verses a god! Not a women!!!!-shaqib alam
well since men were the main characters then to me that means that men are people who teaches morals and that they have important roles in life and in the fables and also that they are important. if we were equal then we both would be in fables and be the main characters and we both would be equal in life and story life. men help women by helping us in war and working and giving us money.in some cultures they represent male more than female so this shows that male are important than female at some points.
I think that fable stories are mostly dominated by male protagonists because as everyone knows, people usually think that men have a bigger part in the society than female protagonists. This tells me that people think that males have much more importantance other than females. I also think this because in the story, there is not a lot of women, so far there has only been men. I believe that everyone, is equal, because there is no difference between anyone. Everyone is still human and no one changed. As a society, people can help bring equality, by thinking fairly, and giving justice to everyone.
Shaqib said, "This says that men are stronger. If women were stronger then they would be books more! Plus in this book its a boy verses a god! Not a women!!!!-shaqib alam" but he did not anser the question. Men are mostly in fables, beause they are strong. this means that, whn fables wre getting made, the women were care givers.
I think the fable stories are mostly dominated by male protaginists because even though we don't realize, we give men more respect then woman. This shows that cultures have always believed that males have a stronger role. I think this says that men have always been known for strength and cultures don't realize that it isn't always about strength, but back then, it was. As a society, we can begin to change that and edge toward equality by realizing that strength isn't all that is needed in life. Shaqib, I agree with your point of when you say if women were stronger then they would be in books more, but I beg to differ when you say that men are stronger. Even though this may show, we don't know if Pic will win yet, even though he most likely will. Also, I realize that back then, strength may have been an important part of life then but now it isn't always about strength because being able to defeat a god as Pic's father said isn't just strength, it is also cleverness. Pic may be good at the game, but if he isn't clever he most likely won't win.
I think that fables are mostly dominated by male protagonist because in the olden times women were considered to be weak and fragile,(SOOOOOO NOT TRUE!) and in fact, weren't even considered to be eligable to vote, so maybe that's what people thought when people wrote fables. Kayla
Shaqib: Men are not any better than girls are, they were all made equal! There is no difference except for gender. I agree with Aisha, there is no difference between ANYONE. Sure, we have different likes and hobbies, but people were made equal. Have you ever heard the saying,"Seperate but equal" (Sorry if I misspelled seperate.) Even in segregation times they believed that everyone is equal.
Shaqib use your account i fixed for you and your not answering the question. your just going to start another debate that the boys would win at. I think this shows that woman weren't on adventures. i know they were cooking food for men hunting. I know with prior knowledge. they took care of the men. ~ UNKNOWN PERSON :P
First off, Shaqib, the question said,"How can we as a society begin to change that and edge more towards equality?" Your tipping to the opposite side saying that men/women have more power then another. When we say the pledge every morning, we say one nation, which means we're all united/equal. I'm sure if you were in a girls shoes, you would be rooting for equal or women are better then men( but i have no idea why it was men that are important in the old times and not women. It could've been vise-versa.). I think that fables are mostly dominated by male protagonists because fable stories were mostly written back then. I think they were male because back then, males were towered over women. They seemed more ... powerful (BUT NOT ALL!), like G.Washington, and those kinda people before that. They were honored, and women were sort of treated like slaves. Some females in cities weren't even aloud outside, and so the males did many accomplishments, though in many fables, women offered their knowledge. So, males were mostly protagonists because they were honored and were considered more powerful. This says that in many cultures, males are honored as kings,chiefs, or pretty much people who have power. When we represent men and women, men are represented as stronger and more powerful, and women represent knowledge and cleaning cooking and stuff. This is stereo typing, but it happens. We can edge toward equality by not stereo typing, and thinking more about how it would be if everything was the opposite. If we show that we have the same rights, we can edge toward equality.
I think that fable stories are mostly dominated by male protagonists because they prove a lot in life and their roles are really important in the society also. I think that there are male protagonists in the fable stories because maybe males have the ability to know more in fables, they tend to fight more, and also in logic they tend to make more mistakes than women do. Men are usually the leader of a family in most lives so we mostly look up to them than any other women. I say this because Pick's mother was never mentioned in the story and the God wasn't a goddess but a god which is a male god. Since male protagonists are respected than the females we can say about cultures and the way that we represent male and female gender roles that men are more important in society because they do most of the work for other humans and not all the female have the power to do anything. I am not saying that women aren't also important in cultures but I am trying to say that men can continue on the heritage and keep the females and other villagers safe. Female gender roles are represented as good people but they won't have the same ability as men do. Men and female are also equal because they both are strong when it comes to things one cannot do. We as a society can begin to change that and edge towards equality that men and women should be treated equally but one can have more ability than the other. It's true that both men and women have same specialties but men can tend to keep its society free to do the job and not be left behind in a bad situation.
Shaqib, your thought is completely wrong. To start with, fable stories are mostly dominated by male protagonists because men sometimes believe themself higher than women and I'm not trying to be rude or anything but Shaqib, your doing it right now and did it last time. The fact that you stated didn't even answer the second question. Nur stated an important fact, that women were care givers. Just because they didn't do much things doesn't mean they are any less than men. Also, we can create a better society by treating everyone the same no matter what gender they are. To add on, it said that fable stories are mostly dominated by male protagonists,while dominated means to be taken over, which shows that men have to much pride in themselves. ~Rukaiyaa
I do not I repeat agree with Rohan and Shaquib because woman are viewed as the people who take care of people like Mother Nature also I think women and men are equal in strength. I do agree that they are caregivers Rohan.
Shaqib: Just because you're a guy does not mean that you don't underestimate the ability of a woman. All genders are equal; they just have different ways of doing things. In fact, being in a book does not at all signify that men are better, it just means that the interests of the protagonist match that of a boy.
Also, I think that fable stories are mainly dominated by men protagonists because in ancient times, men were the one who went on adventures, because women were thought of as housewives/caregivers. So since fables are ancient stories, men mostly dominate fables.
My computer wasn't working so I couldn't reply earlier. I wanted to say that fables are mostly dominated by male protagonists because people think men are stronger than women, so they can easily change and influence people. In our society, male are represented as strong, brave people and female are represented as weak workers, listening to me. I think society can make change by giving women same jobs and opportunities as men, so that they can be equal. I agree with Angel because before men did go outside so they were more dominating than the women who were housewives.
I notice that in our society today, we do give women the freedom and allow them to have the same jobs. However, I realize that women are only treated differently and we are not completely equal, just how in the world today because of different races are still not completely equal.
I disagree with Shaqib Alam when he says "not a woman." In other words, he is being messed up. No offence to some people, but some cultures don't expect women to do domination. As far as I know. People say the men represent the strong and women represent taking care. We can change this into equality by giving women a little bit more privileges.
I just realized that the "Women Rights Movement" was a total fib. I mean, if they were equal to us men, then maybe there would be more female protagonist... anyway, I remember that in Ms. Marvelos's class, we had a vote and most of the girls chose NOT to challenge the gods. At the same time most of the guys DID want to challenge Chac. This shows me that men are a teeny ween bit more daring then women, trying not to be sexist. Maybe this shows that culturally people think of men as these epic guys compared to women who are suppossed to feed these epic guys. in my opinion, i think that that is unfair because a woman and a guy are more or less both the same. maybe as a society we should let more women in the Army or something. (we started a LONG time ago). Maybe we can also let some women in brave tales too...
Shaqib Alam does not have any proof. I agree with You will never no me when he says that Mr. "Shaqib Alam" is being so sure of himself and putting up dumb comments to these posts without thinking. Just because he is a boy, he says that boys are better. To all the girls that comment: everybody is equal. Shaqib Alam doesn't want to be equal.
I think that since men are main characters, it shows that men have a bigger role in society than women. i actually beg to differ with Shaqib since just because men are in more fables, it doesn't mean women are necessarily weaker because if you think about it, in gym, many boys are beaten by girls and this shows that girls can be stronger than boys. I also concur with Tazrean because men get more respect than girls because if you think about it, men are the ones that get the money for their wives.
Epic Person Usually boys go against each other so you cant actually say that although for that one time in steal the pig Shaqib And Rishaleighn versed but afterthat i think it was a tie between the two Rish didn't win nor did Shaqib
Also, to add more on to Alvy's thought, I think David Wisniewski wrote this because to show the power that the guys have. But at the same time it didn't say that women played too. In my content area book it said women stayed in the village with the other girls. They don't say if women leaves the village. And Alvy is right it does show that men represented the Mayans, that shows that in their culture men were much more important than women. So, Shaqib's thought wasn't completely filled with opinions. Because it does show that they're stronger in the Mayan culture. ~Rish
I concur with Kayla when she said that we are all equal. Although, it wasn't thought like that back then. Using my prior knowledge, before women were not allowed to vote and only men could, but only rich men could. Men are known for their strength and other great abilities. It doesn't mean that we woman can't do the same thing. When Shaqib said that men are stronger I think he meant to say that the it is the power that he was looking at. I'm sure that he doesn't mean what the others are inferring. Just what Alvy said women need help from men in wars because they have abilities that are impossible to see. But still, Women and men should be in an equal level to all. ~Rishaleighn
I beg to differ with you because woman were assisting men when neeeded during war. Your trying to take the easy way out without really supporting your thoughts. Who knows maybe woman really couldnt fight in war
Lamiya, I see that you're using things from tv shows but not anything really from the text. I actually beg to differ with what all the girls are saying about men and women being equal because we aren't equal;men are stronger and better because men prove they are stronger in physical strength. But then again, women have good mental strength so I guess that men and women are actually equal.
Afm, I actually beg to differ with you because male protagonists are only in books not in reality. Afm, you think that just because you boys are cool, know a lot more games than than the girl do, and even have more strength doesn't mean that they are important to the society. See you boys think the girls as an injustice in the world and that' swhat makes you so hyperactive to know that girls aren't considered as your maids. Yes in the story "Rain Player" Pik had a war against Chac, the God of Rain but when you go out to do something don't the women pretty much cover up the job for you. This says about our cultures that we are ignorant because we tip off to the answer we don't know about. Afm, you may think that I am crazy saying this but women can be as strong as the men in our society. Female and gender roles were both sent by God (Afm and Shaqib you know all the history from were humans come from) so why should you guys get credit and not us girls. Just cause we girls are fearful of xenophobia because of our culture and some day you boys will start to realize that yes I was wrong and these girls are important to the society as much as I am. You guys won't be able to realize this but when you grow up you'll be saying the same thing to your kids and then your kids will say that to their kids... continuing on. We as a society can begin to change that and edge more towards equality by giving these females a chance. Today we have the same power as much as everyone does and we can learn from this that both genders are dominated in equality and similarly in our society. So all genders are same and no one can make false genderalize statements.
I actually think that Lamiya is right, all boys do think their cooler but, their not. Just because their more likely to win a sport does not mean they're better. "Rain Player" is a book and not based on a fact. Another reason why Lamiya is right is because everybody knows that there are girls who plays sport too. It doesn't always mean that your a boy your higher than us. I'm still not going against the guys it's just women shouldn't be looked at just another sparkly thing. We have more to offer and to impress if the world saw who we really are then, maybe they'll stop judging. Also, what Shayan says is true boys are a little more daring than girls. Although, we still are daring. Just a little less. If "Rain Player" was true and i'm not saying it's not then, the guys are right. The guys only say that because they're boys and they want us girls to submit to them and, it's not always going to happen. We are our own people and there's no way that were gonna let guys takeover. Freedom is freedom there's no exceptions.
I concur with you Lamiya that men shouldn't feel superior to women; but to add on, i believe that fable stories are mostly dominated by male protagonists because the males pick such jobs that broadcast themselves, leaving the women with the daily jobs which require more energy/perseverance but no highlights. However, both men and women should both have equal rights/name.
I concur with you afm that men are stronger. I think this because most of the time men do more important things than woman. I also beg to differ with you lamyia tazrean and rish because women only do the lowly work.men are much more daring and they have done better things throughout time.If men didnt exist aI doubt the women civilazitaion would go wrong.So yeah its obvious that men are more the protagonist in tales. -youll know who in class
KAzi thats you dont bite me and I CHOOSE to differ with all the people who say that males are just better than females. They technically arent better at everything. For example (not really) Girls are better at sewing than man. men are better at things such as fighting each gender holds attributes of its own.
Whoever My Name is EpicK, I actually beg to differ with you because you men think that your all that. I've got some bad news for you because women are just as great as men and you guys can't make up a generalize statement just because you thing what you are. During our class discussion on Thursday March 21,I realized that all the boys seemed to differ with the girls. It's a true fact that men mostly do the work that the girls but you guys are just calling yourselves lazy because it seems like you are rubbing off your work on the girls.This makes me think that both genders should edge towards equality because we are just saying bad stuff about our self cause inside were all the same person.If we can just stop this nonsense of boys being better than girls - it's not true- because girls are awesome like boys too.In Turkey and in most countries they are more females than males in that specific area. Women do do lowly work but sometimes I bet you your dad might do the lowly work instead. We can change this if we consider ourselves as good people and not being steor typing. Stereotyping is a common thing in our world today and no one has proof cause all genders are the same.
No one said I am a boy I could be one. Still boys have more potential and capabalilities. You can check the timeline of the world and the men are always better. Why would they mostly be in myths if men are not better thsn women. And fahim or hi my name is I didnt mean men are better at everything but they are better at more things than women are better then men.
Whatever your gender is since you seem to be a mysterious person, girls can also be good at fighting too. I'm sure that some women are the head of their country like in Bangladesh, Shaike Hashena is a lady and yet she is the head/president/prime minister of that country. In some countries male are more than the female or vice versa. Sorry for the grammatical mistakes.
Sheik Hasina is only the Prime Minister in Bangladesh. The President just died and soon there is going to be another election. Just trying to correct you Lamiya.
Shayan, I'm just trying to set an example that men are't the only ones that are better in the society. We have to know that our genders matter in our society and I'm not saying this because of my gender, but girls are also good at sports and men are also good at sewing. If you look in our society today, most restraunts are mostly held by men and when your clothes rip the trailers are also men. When we play gym and th egirls are against the boys sometime the girls defeat the boys or vice versa. This shows that both gender is important in our society and none of them are better cause we all the same powwer. Sorry for grammaticla mistakes. Happy Easter!
Now that I think about it we are neither equal or different. Nobody can be the same and no thing can be the best at all. It just depends on who youre dealing with. But if we sum it all up and come to a conclusion men have done a little more impressive things than women. So still Im sticking with my oriiginal idea that men in a whole have done better things than women. - Youll know its me k... just fill in the spots to know who i am.
Um, to correct you My Name Is Epic K... we are equal. If you look into our society today, there is as much female workers than there are of male workers. For example, in our school there are more female teachers than male teachers. And Kazi (My Name Is Epic K...) we all are equal in our society and if we weren't then things would not be easy as today with all that protesting.
I actually beg to differ with Who Am I because women were not really weak and they did fight in wars. If any of you heard of Molly Hayes or "Molly Pitcher" she was actually a housewife. I have no problem saying it, but when her husband was tired of the exhaustion of the sun't heat, she took her husband's job which was fighting in wars.She helped fire the cannon and she survived through out the whole war. She still today is an honor of women, otherwise we would have still been treated as housewives. Even in the revolutionary war, women were accepted to help fight. So you boys/men should take back what you are saying about men being better because no offence but girls DID fight in wars and they WERE taking care of the men mostly.
I actually concur with Angel because if you boys take place in our shoes you'll understand how we feel. My name is Epic K... is actually wrong because women have also done some impressive things throughout history. If you look at the comment I posted before, Molly Hayes is a perfect example of it. I agree that women are scared of guns but Molly herself has forced herself to use a gun and win the war. That day we had our circle conversation, Afm said that the boys should treat the girls with respect and the girls should treat the boys with respect. I actually beg to differ with that thought because we women have already been giving the respect to men but the men never ever gave the girls respect - and you treat us as if were a garbage truck. If you go back to the women history, you boys will decide to take your words back. In the book it was a boy fighting with a God but that's only in stories remember, not in reality.
Laymia thats not the point im trying to reach Im saying that it's more of a habit for women to be cooking and such than while men fight off in wars. Im not saying all women do that if thats what you think. I concur with the statement that we are equal however it reaches the tower when it talks about habits...
Lamiya boys give as much respect as needed we try as mucha s you do and SOME girls respect boys as much as they respect garbage you cant say that to boys. Look at your gender and compare!...
Kazi Read...: Afm Khan said... Lamiya, I see that you're using things from tv shows but not anything really from the text. I actually beg to differ with what all the girls are saying about men and women being equal because we aren't equal;men are stronger and better because men prove they are stronger in physical strength. But then again, women have good mental strength so I guess that men and women are actually equal.
Ayesha, when you said "This tells me that people think that males have much more importantance other than females" it made me realize that sometimes, we boys can overdo the extent of our power (I said sometimes, not always)and we should actually think about how the girls feel.
P.S I am posting this from my new labtop with Windows 8!!!
I actually beg to differ with Hi My Name Is... because we girls do not think were all that. Plus, Fahim many girls in our class don't even care about the way they are cause we like the way we are. If we weren't equal in our society the girls in our class wouldn't even be there and we would just go to an all girls school which would be so awesome. Still there are more girls in our class which shows that both genders are equal because they attend the same things as the boys do. (P.S Afm me and Rohan also got a windows 8 computer which I am writing from it now.)
Women aren't always so strong, so they have to be the households. and also, there would be girl gods in a lot more bopoks, if they were actually satorng. PS: Afm, I also am writing from my windows laptop like Lamiya. Ha! An yes lamiya I have a lot of errors.
Rohan I can't believe because a second ago you told me that both female and male gender were equal. Plus, books aren't right and in reality both boys and girls are equal so yeah neither girls and boys are strongest. We are both equal in life since we do the same things.
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This says that men are stronger. If women were stronger then they would be books more! Plus in this book its a boy verses a god! Not a women!!!!-shaqib alam
well since men were the main characters then to me that means that men are people who teaches morals and that they have important roles in life and in the fables and also that they are important. if we were equal then we both would be in fables and be the main characters and we both would be equal in life and story life. men help women by helping us in war and working and giving us money.in some cultures they represent male more than female so this shows that male are important than female at some points.
I think that fable stories are mostly dominated by male protagonists because as everyone knows, people usually think that men have a bigger part in the society than female protagonists. This tells me that people think that males have much more importantance other than females. I also think this because in the story, there is not a lot of women, so far there has only been men. I believe that everyone, is equal, because there is no difference between anyone. Everyone is still human and no one changed. As a society, people can help bring equality, by thinking fairly, and giving justice to everyone.
Shaqib said, "This says that men are stronger. If women were stronger then they would be books more! Plus in this book its a boy verses a god! Not a women!!!!-shaqib alam" but he did not anser the question. Men are mostly in fables, beause they are strong. this means that, whn fables wre getting made, the women were care givers.
I think the fable stories are mostly dominated by male protaginists because even though we don't realize, we give men more respect then woman. This shows that cultures have always believed that males have a stronger role. I think this says that men have always been known for strength and cultures don't realize that it isn't always about strength, but back then, it was. As a society, we can begin to change that and edge toward equality by realizing that strength isn't all that is needed in life. Shaqib, I agree with your point of when you say if women were stronger then they would be in books more, but I beg to differ when you say that men are stronger. Even though this may show, we don't know if Pic will win yet, even though he most likely will. Also, I realize that back then, strength may have been an important part of life then but now it isn't always about strength because being able to defeat a god as Pic's father said isn't just strength, it is also cleverness. Pic may be good at the game, but if he isn't clever he most likely won't win.
I think that fables are mostly dominated by male protagonist because in the olden times women were considered to be weak and fragile,(SOOOOOO NOT TRUE!) and in fact, weren't even considered to be eligable to vote, so maybe that's what people thought when people wrote fables. Kayla
Shaqib: Men are not any better than girls are, they were all made equal! There is no difference except for gender. I agree with Aisha, there is no difference between ANYONE. Sure, we have different likes and hobbies, but people were made equal. Have you ever heard the saying,"Seperate but equal" (Sorry if I misspelled seperate.) Even in segregation times they believed that everyone is equal.
Oops, forgot to put Kayla, ~Kayla.
Shaqib use your account i fixed for you and your not answering the question. your just going to start another debate that the boys would win at. I think this shows that woman weren't on adventures. i know they were cooking food for men hunting. I know with prior knowledge. they took care of the men.
~ UNKNOWN PERSON :P
First off, Shaqib, the question said,"How can we as a society begin to change that and edge more towards equality?" Your tipping to the opposite side saying that men/women have more power then another. When we say the pledge every morning, we say one nation, which means we're all united/equal. I'm sure if you were in a girls shoes, you would be rooting for equal or women are better then men( but i have no idea why it was men that are important in the old times and not women. It could've been vise-versa.).
I think that fables are mostly dominated by male protagonists because fable stories were mostly written back then. I think they were male because back then, males were towered over women. They seemed more ... powerful (BUT NOT ALL!), like G.Washington, and those kinda people before that. They were honored, and women were sort of treated like slaves. Some females in cities weren't even aloud outside, and so the males did many accomplishments, though in many fables, women offered their knowledge. So, males were mostly protagonists because they were honored and were considered more powerful.
This says that in many cultures, males are honored as kings,chiefs, or pretty much people who have power. When we represent men and women, men are represented as stronger and more powerful, and women represent knowledge and cleaning cooking and stuff. This is stereo typing, but it happens.
We can edge toward equality by not stereo typing, and thinking more about how it would be if everything was the opposite. If we show that we have the same rights, we can edge toward equality.
I think that fable stories are mostly dominated by male protagonists because they prove a lot in life and their roles are really important in the society also. I think that there are male protagonists in the fable stories because maybe males have the ability to know more in fables, they tend to fight more, and also in logic they tend to make more mistakes than women do. Men are usually the leader of a family in most lives so we mostly look up to them than any other women. I say this because Pick's mother was never mentioned in the story and the God wasn't a goddess but a god which is a male god. Since male protagonists are respected than the females we can say about cultures and the way that we represent male and female gender roles that men are more important in society because they do most of the work for other humans and not all the female have the power to do anything. I am not saying that women aren't also important in cultures but I am trying to say that men can continue on the heritage and keep the females and other villagers safe. Female gender roles are represented as good people but they won't have the same ability as men do. Men and female are also equal because they both are strong when it comes to things one cannot do. We as a society can begin to change that and edge towards equality that men and women should be treated equally but one can have more ability than the other. It's true that both men and women have same specialties but men can tend to keep its society free to do the job and not be left behind in a bad situation.
Shaqib, your thought is completely wrong. To start with, fable stories are mostly dominated by male protagonists because men sometimes believe themself higher than women and I'm not trying to be rude or anything but Shaqib, your doing it right now and did it last time. The fact that you stated didn't even answer the second question. Nur stated an important fact, that women were care givers. Just because they didn't do much things doesn't mean they are any less than men. Also, we can create a better society by treating everyone the same no matter what gender they are. To add on, it said that fable stories are mostly dominated by male protagonists,while dominated means to be taken over, which shows that men have to much pride in themselves.
~Rukaiyaa
I do not I repeat agree with Rohan and Shaquib because woman are viewed as the people who take care of people like Mother Nature also I think women and men are equal in strength. I do agree that they are caregivers Rohan.
I concur with all of you because I think that what Shaqib said wasn't answering the question.
Shaqib: Just because you're a guy does not mean that you don't underestimate the ability of a woman. All genders are equal; they just have different ways of doing things. In fact, being in a book does not at all signify that men are better, it just means that the interests of the protagonist match that of a boy.
Also, I think that fable stories are mainly dominated by men protagonists because in ancient times, men were the one who went on adventures, because women were thought of as housewives/caregivers. So since fables are ancient stories, men mostly dominate fables.
My computer wasn't working so I couldn't reply earlier. I wanted to say that fables are mostly dominated by male protagonists because people think men are stronger than women, so they can easily change and influence people. In our society, male are represented as strong, brave people and female are represented as weak workers, listening to me. I think society can make change by giving women same jobs and opportunities as men, so that they can be equal. I agree with Angel because before men did go outside so they were more dominating than the women who were housewives.
I notice that in our society today, we do give women the freedom and allow them to have the same jobs. However, I realize that women are only treated differently and we are not completely equal, just how in the world today because of different races are still not completely equal.
I disagree with Shaqib Alam when he says "not a woman." In other words, he is being messed up. No offence to some people, but some cultures don't expect women to do domination. As far as I know. People say the men represent the strong and women represent taking care. We can change this into equality by giving women a little bit more privileges.
I just realized that the "Women Rights Movement" was a total fib. I mean, if they were equal to us men, then maybe there would be more female protagonist... anyway, I remember that in Ms. Marvelos's class, we had a vote and most of the girls chose NOT to challenge the gods. At the same time most of the guys DID want to challenge Chac. This shows me that men are a teeny ween bit more daring then women, trying not to be sexist. Maybe this shows that culturally people think of men as these epic guys compared to women who are suppossed to feed these epic guys. in my opinion, i think that that is unfair because a woman and a guy are more or less both the same. maybe as a society we should let more women in the Army or something. (we started a LONG time ago). Maybe we can also let some women in brave tales too...
Plus (adressed to shI/mat) not all books have to do with strongness
Shaqib Alam does not have any proof. I agree with You will never no me when he says that Mr. "Shaqib Alam" is being so sure of himself and putting up dumb comments to these posts without thinking. Just because he is a boy, he says that boys are better. To all the girls that comment: everybody is equal. Shaqib Alam doesn't want to be equal.
I think that since men are main characters, it shows that men have a bigger role in society than women. i actually beg to differ with Shaqib since just because men are in more fables, it doesn't mean women are necessarily weaker because if you think about it, in gym, many boys are beaten by girls and this shows that girls can be stronger than boys. I also concur with Tazrean because men get more respect than girls because if you think about it, men are the ones that get the money for their wives.
~Afm Khan
Epic Person Usually boys go against each other so you cant actually say that although for that one time in steal the pig Shaqib And Rishaleighn versed but afterthat i think it was a tie between the two Rish didn't win nor did Shaqib
i mean like often how they choose
Also, to add more on to Alvy's thought, I think David Wisniewski wrote this because to show the power that the guys have. But at the same time it didn't say that women played too. In my content area book it said women stayed in the village with the other girls. They don't say if women leaves the village. And Alvy is right it does show that men represented the Mayans, that shows that in their culture men were much more important than women. So, Shaqib's thought wasn't completely filled with opinions. Because it does show that they're stronger in the Mayan culture. ~Rish
I concur with Kayla when she said that we are all equal. Although, it wasn't thought like that back then. Using my prior knowledge, before women were not allowed to vote and only men could, but only rich men could. Men are known for their strength and other great abilities. It doesn't mean that we woman can't do the same thing. When Shaqib said that men are stronger I think he meant to say that the it is the power that he was looking at. I'm sure that he doesn't mean what the others are inferring. Just what Alvy said women need help from men in wars because they have abilities that are impossible to see. But still, Women and men should be in an equal level to all. ~Rishaleighn
Although rish how would you know with your prior knowledge only rich people could vote.
Why would it change from back then to now
~SOMEONE
I beg to differ with you because woman were assisting men when neeeded during war. Your trying to take the easy way out without really supporting your thoughts. Who knows maybe woman really couldnt fight in war
Today when I was watching the Presidential Inauguration I realized that there were many women and men giving speeches about the Presidents. In the long run before women weren't allowed to vote or have the same jobs as men. But in the society I realized that we hope men for the best - after all they are the ones who are the leader of our own society. We can have Mayor Lady or President Lady but it turns out that there are mostly men who have the power of many things that such girls don't. Shaqib, just because their are less fable stories about female protagonists; it doesn't mean that more men can approve in the future it can also be women. from many cultures we can say that they follow after other beliefs and heritage because they may think that its just ability that allows a female/male to construct the future. As a society we can begin to change that and edge more towards equality that it's the knowledge/power that a person has because anyone can make a difference. We can't say that women are weak because in reality women can be strong as men and this help proves that anyone can edge toward our society. © 2013
Lamiya, I see that you're using things from tv shows but not anything really from the text. I actually beg to differ with what all the girls are saying about men and women being equal because we aren't equal;men are stronger and better because men prove they are stronger in physical strength. But then again, women have good mental strength so I guess that men and women are actually equal.
AFM, basically you are arguing against yourself or talking to yourself and posting it here...
Can people actually put their name down. it's kinda getting confusing.
Afm, I actually beg to differ with you because male protagonists are only in books not in reality. Afm, you think that just because you boys are cool, know a lot more games than than the girl do, and even have more strength doesn't mean that they are important to the society. See you boys think the girls as an injustice in the world and that' swhat makes you so hyperactive to know that girls aren't considered as your maids. Yes in the story "Rain Player" Pik had a war against Chac, the God of Rain but when you go out to do something don't the women pretty much cover up the job for you. This says about our cultures that we are ignorant because we tip off to the answer we don't know about. Afm, you may think that I am crazy saying this but women can be as strong as the men in our society. Female and gender roles were both sent by God (Afm and Shaqib you know all the history from were humans come from) so why should you guys get credit and not us girls. Just cause we girls are fearful of xenophobia because of our culture and some day you boys will start to realize that yes I was wrong and these girls are important to the society as much as I am. You guys won't be able to realize this but when you grow up you'll be saying the same thing to your kids and then your kids will say that to their kids... continuing on. We as a society can begin to change that and edge more towards equality by giving these females a chance. Today we have the same power as much as everyone does and we can learn from this that both genders are dominated in equality and similarly in our society. So all genders are same and no one can make false genderalize statements.
I actually think that Lamiya is right, all boys do think their cooler but, their not. Just because their more likely to win a sport does not mean they're better. "Rain Player" is a book and not based on a fact. Another reason why Lamiya is right is because everybody knows that there are girls who plays sport too. It doesn't always mean that your a boy your higher than us. I'm still not going against the guys it's just women shouldn't be looked at just another sparkly thing. We have more to offer and to impress if the world saw who we really are then, maybe they'll stop judging. Also, what Shayan says is true boys are a little more daring than girls. Although, we still are daring. Just a little less. If "Rain Player" was true and i'm not saying it's not then, the guys are right. The guys only say that because they're boys and they want us girls to submit to them and, it's not always going to happen. We are our own people and there's no way that were gonna let guys takeover. Freedom is freedom there's no exceptions.
Oh yeah that was me ~Rishaleighn
I concur with you Lamiya that men shouldn't feel superior to women; but to add on, i believe that fable stories are mostly dominated by male protagonists because the males pick such jobs that broadcast themselves, leaving the women with the daily jobs which require more energy/perseverance but no highlights. However, both men and women should both have equal rights/name.
I concur with you afm that men are stronger. I think this because most of the time men do more important things than woman. I also beg to differ with you lamyia tazrean and rish because women only do the lowly work.men are much more daring and they have done better things throughout time.If men didnt exist aI doubt the women civilazitaion would go wrong.So yeah its obvious that men are more the protagonist in tales. -youll know who in class
KAzi thats you dont bite me and I CHOOSE to differ with all the people who say that males are just better than females. They technically arent better at everything. For example (not really) Girls are better at sewing than man. men are better at things such as fighting each gender holds attributes of its own.
Kazi Afm thinks woman and men are equal this means you do TO???
Whoever My Name is EpicK, I actually beg to differ with you because you men think that your all that. I've got some bad news for you because women are just as great as men and you guys can't make up a generalize statement just because you thing what you are. During our class discussion on Thursday March 21,I realized that all the boys seemed to differ with the girls. It's a true fact that men mostly do the work that the girls but you guys are just calling yourselves lazy because it seems like you are rubbing off your work on the girls.This makes me think that both genders should edge towards equality because we are just saying bad stuff about our self cause inside were all the same person.If we can just stop this nonsense of boys being better than girls - it's not true- because girls are awesome like boys too.In Turkey and in most countries they are more females than males in that specific area. Women do do lowly work but sometimes I bet you your dad might do the lowly work instead. We can change this if we consider ourselves as good people and not being steor typing. Stereotyping is a common thing in our world today and no one has proof cause all genders are the same.
No one said I am a boy I could be one. Still boys have more potential and capabalilities. You can check the timeline of the world and the men are always better. Why would they mostly be in myths if men are not better thsn women. And fahim or hi my name is I didnt mean men are better at everything but they are better at more things than women are better then men.
Sorry for the spelling error I meant than not thsn.
Fahim Afm actually thinks men are better. You can check all his posts on this question.
Whatever your gender is since you seem to be a mysterious person, girls can also be good at fighting too. I'm sure that some women are the head of their country like in Bangladesh, Shaike Hashena is a lady and yet she is the head/president/prime minister of that country. In some countries male are more than the female or vice versa.
Sorry for the grammatical mistakes.
Sheik Hasina is only the Prime Minister in Bangladesh. The President just died and soon there is going to be another election. Just trying to correct you Lamiya.
Shayan, I'm just trying to set an example that men are't the only ones that are better in the society. We have to know that our genders matter in our society and I'm not saying this because of my gender, but girls are also good at sports and men are also good at sewing. If you look in our society today, most restraunts are mostly held by men and when your clothes rip the trailers are also
men. When we play gym and th egirls are against the boys sometime the girls defeat the boys or vice versa. This shows that both gender is important in our society and none of them are better cause we all the same powwer.
Sorry for grammaticla mistakes.
Happy Easter!
Kazi your the only one with a k -_- and check afms latest post in the end it says something like "actually we're equal"
Now that I think about it we are neither equal or different. Nobody can be the same and no thing can be the best at all. It just depends on who youre dealing with. But if we sum it all up and come to a conclusion men have done a little more impressive things than women. So still Im sticking with my oriiginal idea that men in a whole have done better things than women.
- Youll know its me k... just fill in the spots to know who i am.
Um, to correct you My Name Is Epic K... we are equal. If you look into our society today, there is as much female workers than there are of male workers. For example, in our school there are more female teachers than male teachers. And Kazi (My Name Is Epic K...) we all are equal in our society and if we weren't then things would not be easy as today with all that protesting.
I actually beg to differ with Who Am I because women were not really weak and they did fight in wars. If any of you heard of Molly Hayes or "Molly Pitcher" she was actually a housewife. I have no problem saying it, but when her husband was tired of the exhaustion of the sun't heat, she took her husband's job which was fighting in wars.She helped fire the cannon and she survived through out the whole war. She still today is an honor of women, otherwise we would have still been treated as housewives. Even in the revolutionary war, women were accepted to help fight. So you boys/men should take back what you are saying about men being better because no offence but girls DID fight in wars and they WERE taking care of the men mostly.
I actually concur with Angel because if you boys take place in our shoes you'll understand how we feel. My name is Epic K... is actually wrong because women have also done some impressive things throughout history. If you look at the comment I posted before, Molly Hayes is a perfect example of it. I agree that women are scared of guns but Molly herself has forced herself to use a gun and win the war. That day we had our circle conversation, Afm said that the boys should treat the girls with respect and the girls should treat the boys with respect. I actually beg to differ with that thought because we women have already been giving the respect to men but the men never ever gave the girls respect - and you treat us as if were a garbage truck. If you go back to the women history, you boys will decide to take your words back. In the book it was a boy fighting with a God but that's only in stories remember, not in reality.
Laymia thats not the point im trying to reach Im saying that it's more of a habit for women to be cooking and such than while men fight off in wars. Im not saying all women do that if thats what you think. I concur with the statement that we are equal however it reaches the tower when it talks about habits...
Lamiya boys give as much respect as needed we try as mucha s you do and SOME girls respect boys as much as they respect garbage you cant say that to boys. Look at your gender and compare!...
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Afm Khan said...
Lamiya, I see that you're using things from tv shows but not anything really from the text. I actually beg to differ with what all the girls are saying about men and women being equal because we aren't equal;men are stronger and better because men prove they are stronger in physical strength. But then again, women have good mental strength so I guess that men and women are actually equal.
February 25, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Ayesha, when you said "This tells me that people think that males have much more importantance other than females" it made me realize that sometimes, we boys can overdo the extent of our power (I said sometimes, not always)and we should actually think about how the girls feel.
P.S I am posting this from my new labtop with Windows 8!!!
Afm the girls are thinking all the cons about the boys however they dont look at their cons. They think they are oso perfect. They aren't !!
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I actually beg to differ with Hi My Name Is... because we girls do not think were all that. Plus, Fahim many girls in our class don't even care about the way they are cause we like the way we are. If we weren't equal in our society the girls in our class wouldn't even be there and we would just go to an all girls school which would be so awesome. Still there are more girls in our class which shows that both genders are equal because they attend the same things as the boys do.
(P.S Afm me and Rohan also got a windows 8 computer which I am writing from it now.)
Women aren't always so strong, so they have to be the households. and also, there would be girl gods in a lot more bopoks, if they were actually satorng.
PS: Afm, I also am writing from my windows laptop like Lamiya. Ha!
An yes lamiya I have a lot of errors.
Rohan I can't believe because a second ago you told me that both female and male gender were equal. Plus, books aren't right and in reality both boys and girls are equal so yeah neither girls and boys are strongest. We are both equal in life since we do the same things.
Lamiya, you can support your statement with proof. I BEG TO DIFFER JUST BecaUSe Of Thaty
Writing from windows &7 sorty for the erros
seriously shaqib?
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